Vicki discusses clean links with Wayne Dyer on the Holler podcast
>> Bailey Moreland: M hey there.
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>> Bailey Moreland: All right, Vicki, I got a big one for you today. It's been on my heart a lot, and I don't, I think I could point to why, and plenty of reasons why, but, I'm bringing it to you today because it's a huge message that you are always conveying to those of us who are here at the farm or at signpost Saturday. I'm going to throw it out there and we're going to start unraveling. It's the idea of clean links, one.
>> Vikki: Of my absolute favorite things to talk about.
>> Bailey Moreland: Why is that? Tell us more.
>> Vikki: Well, I think it's, really Wayne Dyer's influence over my wife joke a lot, about my morning, of my life, when I was in deep suffering, lots of addiction, just sideways with life, and I would always have a 44 ounce diet coke, a cigarette hanging out of my mouth, and a wanedyer cassette.
>> Bailey Moreland: None of those things go together. We'll to do which of these things does not belong.
>> Vikki: I always, even in my, you know, eating disorders and steroid use and alcoholism, I always had this strong desire, for this spiritual connection. And so even in all my cray cray, Wayne Dyer was always on a cassette tape playing. And interesting enough, even now, I drive an old truck, and, he's always playing on a cd.
>> Bailey Moreland: Side note, I can vouch for this, I've gotten into her truck before, and up cranks the cd spinning in the cassette player.
>> Vikki: The disc player, it is.
>> Bailey Moreland: Dyer. There he is.
>> Vikki: Yeah, yeah. So he has had huge influence on my life since the eighties, just huge influence. And, so one of the things that I heard him say was he was quoting one of his mentors, Carlos Constantis, who I think was quoting one of his mentors, like Don Juan matuse or something like that. So that's what's so beautiful about this journey, is we're all learning from each other, and it's just passed down, and then we make it our own and then we share it.
>> Bailey Moreland: I love that. I feel like that perfectly embodies the farm, too.
>> Vikki: Yeah, yeah, it does. That's, that's what we're supposed to do. I mean, we're original, and yet the messages and truths that are passed down didn't originate from us. They came from others, and then we interpret those in our own unique way, and then hopefully share those with others. And the greatest gift of all of that is to give people permission to find their own way. So, Wayne Dyer, it was one of the things that he said, and again, this is my interpretation of him. So it may not be exactly as he said it, but it was. The question is not, are we connected? We are all connected. The question is, how corroded are your links?
Wayne Dyer uses Carlos Constantis quote to talk about intention
>> Bailey Moreland: All right, let me, let me pause this here. I actually have the quote, and you did it so perfect, but there's a little bit of cushion before it and a little after it that I want to include. So this is where the quote that you just used came from.
>> Vikki: Okay?
>> Bailey Moreland: and again, this is car, this is Wayne Dyer quoting Carlos Constantis quote. Everything in the universe was intended here and emanates from a source. And the source intends things. The question isn't, am I connected to it? This field beats your heart and grows your fingernails. It animates all life. Intention isn't about whether you are going to connect to it. You are already connected. M the question is how dirty and corroded are the links that connect you to everyone else. Clean your link to become in harmony with this field of intention so you can reach your highest powers.
>> Vikki: Okay. Nothing needs to be said after that.
>> Bailey Moreland: So good. So good.
>> Vikki: I mean, just like I would almost say, can you read it one more time? I'm, slow, and I like to just. God, it's so beautiful. Would you mind repeating it?
>> Bailey Moreland: I'll read it again. And I just, I think the imagery that it provides is everything.
Intention isn't about whether you are going to connect to it
All right. So again, Wayne Dyer quoting Carlos Constantis, everything in the universe was intended here and emanates from a source, and the source intends things. The question isn't, am I connected to it? This field beats your heart and grows your fingernails. It animates all life. Intention isn't about whether you are going to connect to it. You are already connected. The question is how dirty and corroded are the links that connect you to everyone else. Clean your link to become in harmony with this field of intention so you can reach your highest powers. And I would also insert potential, insert a million other words there, but so beautiful.
>> Vikki: Yeah, it is to me, you know, again, whoever listens to this are going to, you know, have as many interpretations of that. but when I hear that, for me, it isn't to look at ourselves with judgment, because some of us can take a spiritual tool and use it to hurt ourselves. Rather than to be helpful. And that's not what this is to me. It's an offering of awareness, to become aware of internally what's going on inside of you. Because if there is resentment, unforgiveness, all those things, then that builds up residue, and that's actually what you bring to your relationships.
>> Bailey Moreland: Okay, hold on. I'm wrapping my head around this. It takes me a minute. So when we're thinking about this idea of links connecting us to other people.
>> Bailey Moreland: It's. And I know you're going to help us with the. With the ideal way, let's say. But when you bring an energy of struggle, resistance, bitterness, transaction, I could keep going forever. That makes your connection to the other person junky, gooey. So what would. So what's the ideal, I guess, would be the question.
>> Vikki: Well, I don't ever know about for other people, but I can tell you, for me, I want to always be aware. I think we're so programmed to pay attention to what we say, how we converse with each other. And the spiritual path offers something so much greater of, what is the energy that I am bringing to what I'm saying. So it's what's underneath, what is going on in me that emanates from me when I'm conversing with another human being, let's just say, or with nature or anything else. So it's asking you, because sometimes we're just programmed to, like, say the right thing, say, be nice, say the right thing. And yet what we're bringing is this charge of resentment, animosity. Like, you can just feel it. You can feel it if you're even slightly connected.
>> Bailey Moreland: It's almost like just in a very simplistic view of how I'm hearing you talk, it's a otherwise said genuine, right? Sometimes. Are you bringing a genuine energy?
>> Vikki: A lot of times we're not aware of the energy. We're not connected to that. So we can say all the right nice things we're supposed to say, and we can think we're doing all the right things that we're supposed to do. But what's underneath? That is what people feel.
>> Bailey Moreland: Okay, I think this is a perfect time for an example. I have one. Do you have one?
>> Vikki: you know I do.
>> Bailey Moreland: But you go, okay, and then I want. I think this is example time. It actually involves you.
>> Vikki: Oh, God.
>> Bailey Moreland: Surprise. So we were, we were set to have a meeting. this has been a few months ago, and our household got taken out by illness. I'm telling you taken out. I have three kids. We were all down for the count. Usually it's just the kids. It was all of us this time, myself included. And we had this very important time set aside, and I think we had to reschedule it a few times. And I wanted to be there. And so much was going to come from this time together. And I was dog sick, and I came anyways, right, like a ding dong. And I came and I was fine. I survived. However, I don't think that I brought, back to the quote that talks about your highest self, reaching your highest potential, your highest power. I know for a fact I didn't achieve that by bringing that version of myself. I didn't honor myself, let's say, in other words, and say, I need to be sleeping. I said, I want this. I want this resistance, you know, that hustle through, push through. and I just don't think that the highest and best use of anybody's time was had. Does that make sense?
>> Vikki: Yeah. Yeah. So there's so many layers to that, Bailey. I mean, I want to take the conversation in whatever way you would like for it to go, but a lot of times we say yes when everything in us says no because we don't want to let people down.
>> Bailey Moreland: That, right there.
>> Vikki: So, again, it's, we have this image that we, this way, we want for people to see who we are. And so we're trying so hard to live up to this image that we do things that aren't in alignment with our heart, with our soul, with our physical capabilities, whatever it is. And so there's a disconnect. And whenever there's a disconnect, and we don't pay attention to the deeper thing going on, there's actually usually going to be some kind of suffering. And so the deeper thing going on in that moment, to me wasn't that, you came and, you know, you were sick. It's, oh, my God. Let me open the door inward and clean my links and ask the question, what in me is trying to live up to an image that I have created, that its time has come, that I need to let it go? So you can see how clean links affect so many things.
>> Bailey Moreland: This is everything. its actually all connected. Shocker. But you said this to me one time. I was sharing a personal story, and I just looked you in the eyes and I said, but I don't want to let you down. And you said that to me, so I'm going to ask you to repeat it. I'm going to probably try and mess it up. But you so solemnly looked me in the eyes and said, oh, honey, you're not going to let me down. You're only going to let down this version of yourself that you hold in your mind of what you think you are. And don't let that confuse you as to who you are.
We all create these images of how we want other people to perceive us
It's just this painting, if you will. So what's your version of that? Because it was huge.
>> Vikki: It's that we all create these images of how we want other people to perceive us, which is crazy, because everybody has their own perception to begin with. So any image I try to portray is just me hustling for some inauthentic version of me which is not real. But again, you were doing that, like, not because you were a bitch or you were doing that because you have a wounded piece. If you don't mind me saying that, I have many wounded pieces. So I'm not, you know, checking out your spec before I look at my plank. I want you to hear that. But there was some. There is something wounded in you because I know you so well that tries to work hard for this unattainable image so that you can be perceived in that way. And it's just. It's not who you are. It's who the world has told you you need to be, but it's not who you were created to be.
>> Bailey Moreland: Timeout. Just say that one more time so that it can see. I know.
>> Vikki: I, have a hard time remembering things that I say.
>> Bailey Moreland: I just need to hear it again.
>> Vikki: I think what I said was, you're not this image of who you have created, that you think the world needs you to be. The world, God, life, your friends, your family want you to be exactly who you are. They may not know that version of you yet, and it may be uncomfortable to begin with when you start being that version. So, I mean, I need to keep it real on that. But ultimately, we want people to be honestly and authentically who they are. Because not only is it clean links, and it strengthens the bond and the relationship because it's rooted in honesty, but it gives us permission and reminds us to do the same.
>> Bailey Moreland: It's so. It's simple, not easy.
>> Vikki: Yeah.
>> Bailey Moreland: So good. such a different way to show up to everything. but I think perhaps, like, the first, to use the word step is probably not appropriate here. But the first little part to tackle would just be acknowledging and just saying, hey, I see you. When that part, that facade, that image of who you think others think you are, or who you think others need you to be. Just maybe acknowledging that from time to time.
>> Vikki: Yes, of course. I mean, it's. That's thich nhat hanh and other buddhist monks have given us the example of pulling up a chair and inviting it to sit down. Like, why are you here and what are you revealing to me? Like, I see you, you know, I'm not gonna pretend or deny that you're there. I see you. But I can also see your time has come to go. So let's have a chat of, why you're here and what you want to teach me, because after the chat, I'm going to lovingly set you free. And so it's just a very different approach to, you know, how we, when we're willing to turn the light on some of our woundedness, how we view it, do we judge and criticize it, or do we lovingly, you know, recognize it, acknowledge it, and then also, you know, say, your time has come.
>> Bailey Moreland: I kind of like that as like a, you know, just a practical, everyday thing to think about that. The visual of pulling up a chair for this thing that you've created.
>> Vikki: Yeah. The suffering, the wound, what looks to be like something that is harmful or, you know, it's so interesting when you invite it to sit down and be with you and ask it, you know, what is it here to teach you and you're open to learning, and then it's you, it's a releasing. It's just such a gentle way to be, you know, into conflict and dealing with, you know, parts of ourself that, are ready for a shift or ready for a change. I don't even remember what we were talking about before that.
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How do you deal with tension when you're being true to yourself
All right, back to the episode.
>> Bailey Moreland: Yeah, no, I don't either. Clean links.
>> Vikki: Yeah, that.
>> Bailey Moreland: Well, we were, we were, we were just exploring this idea that showing up of showing up inauthentically, essentially. But now this is taking me as the people pleaser that I have the tendency to be. My next logical question is, how do you deal with the tension that this creates at times when you're being true to yourself and showing up in your most authentic form and that can sometimes inconvenience other people?
>> Vikki: Yeah.
>> Bailey Moreland: What do you do?
>> Vikki: Again, I'm not sure what you would do. I can tell you some things that have really helped me along my way, but it's just a feeling. So what you're talking about is, okay, I'm going to try to change a pattern. I'm going to try to do something different so that I can teach people how to treat me differently. And in doing this, it feels like we're turning the Titanic around because it creates a lot of tension, you said, or feelings. It's like, okay, well, just like the wound, we're going to pull up a chair for the feelings and say, have a seat. Come join me. I can see that this is uncomfortable. There's tension. It feels like confrontation. Like you just sit, you just acknowledge what is, you turn the light on what is and understand again that it's a feeling. And there are uncomfortable feelings to life, especially when you're choosing to be awake from for life. Because if you want to be numb, there are 10 million ways you can check out a life and be numb yourself. This is all about connecting. Clean links, awareness, waking up, like all those things. Life is so brief and so fragile. And this is actually choosing to engage and live our lives from a completely different place than the world offers.
>> Bailey Moreland: Yeah. And I think that, you know, we say it so many times and it certainly is the heart of the farm that, you know, step off of the world's rhythm, get onto God's rhythm.
Bailey: In order to let other people have feelings, we first have to
I had a question as you were talking that was coming to mind, I. What would you say? How do you wrestle with the fact that other people can feel their feelings and like, or not like, or just have general feelings about something? I do, but that's out of my control.
>> Vikki: That's boundaries and codependency, you know, I mean, there's so many topics that you can just see how everything is so interwoven. If in little things, we don't know how to let people suffer or feel their feelings, and we think we need to rush in and change their feelings because we're uncomfortable seeing that, then we're not allowing other people to be who they need to be.
>> Bailey Moreland: Okay, hold on. So you're saying that it's important to let people have those feelings.
>> Vikki: So here's where it starts. Bailey, for me, is in order to let other people have their feelings, we first have to be comfortable with letting ourselves have our feelings, because what we do to us as within. So without there, you know, it's just a spiritual principle. What is inside is what comes out. And so if I want to learn, if I want to practice how to allow people to feel their feelings, then I first have to do my own work of, feeling my feelings. That's what cleaning our links is all about.
>> Bailey Moreland: That's so good. It's reminding me as I'm in the thick of parenting. Often parenting experts will say a lot of parenting is caught, not taught. So, same could be said for everybody around you. They're going to more so catch and model what you model for them or live out what you model for them.
>> Vikki: Yeah. And what, again, I'm not a parent, so I would never give parenting advice of any kind. So I'm not thinking about the parent child relationship. I'm thinking about all the other relationships, because I always say, if you haven't struggled with addiction, I'm not interested in, and your perspective on it, it's just different when you've experienced something. So I have never experienced parrotings parenting of any, any kind. So you would not want to take advice from me on that. But I can share a perspective on relationships. And so I would say not only do you model that for them, but I think the part we most forget is you're modeling how to be in relationship with yourself. You're showing them how to be in relationship with themselves, not with you. And so the modeling or the caughtness that's going on is we forget, if we want people in our lives to be loving and caring and tender in general, then the question becomes, am I, loving and caring and tender and gentle with myself, not just with them?
>> Bailey Moreland: This is, this is so good, because I'm really thinking about, there's actually a beautiful representation of clean links in your barn here at the farm. We're gonna, we're gonna post up a picture in the show notes, so if you're listening, you can go check it out yourself. and what I'm realizing as you're talking is we have links between ourselves and other people, but perhaps most importantly, we have a link within ourselves.
>> Vikki: Absolutely. That is the link that starts because I believe, again, this is just my perspective. it's not the main worldview, you know, but I have learned, I have experienced directly that how I see myself is the lens that I also view to God. So if I'm critical and judgmental, then I think my God is critical and judgmental. And so this clean link isn't just like, about me, like the small me m me. This is about my view outwardly to everything. It's so important when you really understand the magnitude of doing your own healing work and widening your perspective or cleaning your lens or cleaning your links or, you know, that's why I'm so passionate about it, because it changes everything.
>> Bailey Moreland: It really does. I mean, it's not exactly where I imagined I, our conversation would go. if you could see me right now, my mind's kind of exploding. It's just, the interconnectedness of it all is just crazy to me. And it really is challenging everything that I know myself and plenty of people that I know grew up with where you were told you could essentially treat people very differently than how you felt. And this is not that.
>> Vikki: Well, for me, it's not. And again, I base that on my perspective of ancient wisdom. so this isn't just something I came up with out on my horse in the woods somewhere. I just had this shift of understanding of what it meant to love God with all my heart and then to love others in the way I'm loving myself. And so to me, that beautiful triangle was all about the greatest way I could love God is the way I love others. And that hinges in direct proportion to how I'm loving myself. And when I started living life from that perspective, everything changed. That is not a lot of people's perspective. And I. That's okay, you know, but that is absolutely, when my life started, the tide started really, really turning, because in the beginning, I so wanted to love God. I wanted to work. I didn't realize it, but worked for that love, for an external love, external love. I wanted, I didn't have a daddy that loved me, so I wanted that, you know, spiritual daddy that loved me. And so I worked hard for it. And then I learned, you know, through a lot of dogma and such, that the way I did that was to love others. And I needed to do that at the expense of hurting myself. And so then that became the pattern. The way I love God and love others is hurting me. And so that's why the beginning of my life was filled with such suffering, because in a very dysfunctional way, I thought I was doing what I was supposed to do to earn good graces with getting a father to love me. And, you know, all the, all the things. And again, it all is such a gift. It all has been such a gift in my life. Because if I wasn't given a father that didn't have the capacity to love me and that was available, then I wouldn't have gone on such a destructive external journey, and then I wouldn't have gone on, you know, eventually a mental institution, a healing path, and I would not be here.
>> Bailey Moreland: Yeah, it's kind of making me hear this message that is bouncing around more and more here lately in, my world, which is, you know, the suffering is not only inevitable, but is a beautiful part of the process.
>> Vikki: Absolutely. It's needed. Again, I don't believe we have to add suffering onto our suffering. That was my pattern. But when the suffering comes, if we start learning to trust it and trust God and allow it in some way, it has been my direct experience that there is this burning off and purification that actually lights the way that takes me to a new place that I could never have gotten to without it. I don't want suffering. Hear me? I don't want suffering. I never get used to the hard losing people and my animals and things that are so tender to my heart. And yet, as life has moved on, I've learned to trust that something's going on that I can't see.
>> Bailey Moreland: Some lesson usually will come from it, which is always kind of tricky, because you don't want to assume that you have to go through terrible, awful things.
>> Vikki: No, but I can absolutely say because, most people know my suffering, my addiction, in and out of rehabs and all of that was two decades, 22, 23 years, that I was in and out of sobriety and recovery. And just a hot mess. Still a hot mess, but in a different way. But I have learned. So here's what I say all the time. So my husband's in recovery, too. He's very vocal about that. So I'm not breaking his anonymity. However, he got sober his first time. He has one white chip for those that are friends of Bill's.
>> Bailey Moreland: Yeah. What does that mean? Tell us what that means.
>> Vikki: Well, when you admit that you have a problem and you're willing to surrender and believe there's another way, you publicly pick up a white chip. I have, like, 200 or more. So I joke all the time.
Suffering can, if you do your healing work, create compassion
People, are like, wait, your husband has one and you have 200? I'm like, that I even know about. There's probably a lot that I don't even know about. But what's interesting is when people come out to the farm and they just freaking can't get sober. Who do you think has more compassion with them? Me or Eric?
>> Bailey Moreland: my guess is you.
>> Vikki: Yeah, I mean, Eric is compassionate, but he didn't have that struggle. So he's like, his perspective is very different. Suffering can, if you do your healing work, create this level of compassion in your heart so it's not wasted. The suffering is not wasted or just for me, like, it is that conversion m on some level, you know, that transformation to compassion that has helped me meet with people that struggle with the same thing over and over and over and hopefully offer them hope and extend.
>> Bailey Moreland: Grace for the fact that somebody is tripping and falling again. And that's okay.
>> Vikki: but until you've tripped and fall and fell and are bruised and busted up year after year, decade after decade, you can. You can know about that through reading a book. But when you experience that, how you see or meet that person, if you've done your healing work, if you're still beating yourself up, then you're going to beat them up. But if you've really learned to release and forgive yourself and know that it was all orchestrated, and God will use it for good to help others, then how you meet them could possibly change their journey 100%.
>> Bailey Moreland: But very counterintuitive, you know, when we use our thinking brain, another thing that comes to mind, as I hear you say this, is that the universe and God are so compassionate with us that when there's a. A lesson to be learned or, a new way of being, to be adapted, they'll always present an opportunity to do that work. So, hence your 200 chips. Constantly. God kept giving you that opportunity. It's all right, Vicki. It's not this time. Let's try again.
>> Vikki: I believe that that's. Again. I believe we all have our own relationship with the divine, the creator. for me, I use the word God. I know that can be offended, offensive, or maybe not, you know, offensive enough to use whatever word you use. But I am, I am so jiving with my creator and have for a while now. And I'm so comfortable m with being in relationship with this loving, generous, gracious good God that I no longer see. when hard things come, I immediately, hopefully open up the channel and the link to my creator to say, okay, I need you now for this one, rather than, okay, I'm bad. Bad things always happen. I deserve this. It's a completely. It's a different perspective, you know?
>> Bailey Moreland: Well, and you said it so well. I mean, it just takes us back to the topic at hand, which is these clean links, really. M making sure that that link to your creator within, knowing that that is what radiates outward.
>> Vikki: Yeah. And it's supposed to be. It is supposed to be different, you know, so, so much is handed down, handed down, handed down that we just accept what is handed down without any questioning. Is this honest? Is this right? Is this. Is this at, peace in my heart, you know?
>> Bailey Moreland: Is this mind generational?
>> Vikki: Right. And when you start doing that, if you just accept what's handed, then it's not yours. You can say it's yours, but it's not yours. It's not till you take it in and have the direct experience in your own way that it then becomes yours. And I am so good and at peace with my relationship with God and how I'm in relationship with God, my creator. And I just want to always encourage everybody to find their own relationship in their own way.
>> Bailey Moreland: Absolutely. I mean, it's. It's really about first. So, you always say this here at the farm, and, you know, now I feel like I'm saying it because I'm understanding it for the first time in a new way. But opening that door inward so that you can open that door outward.
>> Vikki: Yeah. Ah.
>> Bailey Moreland: So if you really want to show up, let's say your motivation might be to show up for people with clean links more authentically. That will begin with then first.
>> Vikki: Yeah. And I think. I think everybody wants their life to count. I think everybody wants to show up honestly and authentically in relationships. Maybe that's naive, but I really do. I believe that. I believe a lot of us are wounded and don't necessarily have the skills or are operating in deep patterns of conditioning that their time has come to let go. But, like, I believe we're created to want to love others and want to share our gifts and help other people, not in a way that it feeds my ego, but in a way that it really does make a deep contribution, that our lives matter. That's why we're created, I believe.
We're talking about cleaning our links going within today
>> Bailey Moreland: So I'm gonna wrap us up here, okay? Because we're coming to our time as we've started. We're gonna do the heart of the holler today on clean links. So take a couple breaths, because I want you to impart to us here, bring it, ground us in clean links, and give us just something practical that we can walk away with today in order to begin this practice of cleaning our links going within, so that we can go out however you want to say it. What's something practical that could be done today.
>> Vikki: I will have to say there are so many good things that came from my, upbringing, you know, of how I was raised in, religion. And I do know a lot of scripture. I just read it through a completely different lens now. But I always have loved, like I quoted earlier, it's just natural for me to take out this plank in your own eye before you look at the speck and your sisters or brothers. One finger pointing out, there are three pointing back. You know, that was another thing. But again, it's all done for awareness. So what I would leave, hopefully somebody with today I'm stumbling on my words is asking a question of maybe what do I need to do in my life to become more aware.
>> Bailey Moreland: I like that I'm sitting here myself thinking that the most practical thing that I could do is just to notice. So just notice how I'm in relationship with myself. What does my inner voice sound like to myself? as just a way of bringing an awareness to maybe what, what shape my links are in. I'm not trying to clean my links necessarily today. I'm just trying to notice. yeah, I think that's what you're guiding us towards is maybe the first step is just noticing how you're in relationship with yourself. Because chances are good that whatever you notice, that's what's happening with the people around you as well.
>> Vikki: Yeah, whatever you're noticing or doing outwardly, whenever you get ready to speak or teach or share or show or, you know, whatever we do to the people in our lives, to just become aware, if you can do that in a compassionate way, in what area am I doing this in my life? And be willing to open that door and just be like you said, just look at it. You don't have to clean it right now. Just be willing to look at it in a compassionate way, though this is not meant to hurt us, to judge or criticize. See, you did it again. That is not this. This is to lovingly, compassionately. Be willing to open the door inward and really see what is there.
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